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Re: Moving people

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:14 pm
by Rajah
Nice Jare!

I am convinced that the main diffence is the AP-C sensor = DX
I have the the Ricog GR with the same sensor and can have nice shots up to iso 3200.
The Panosonic has a much smaller 5/4 th sensor.

Thanks for sharing!

Frans

Re: Moving people

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:52 am
by hum@no.id
Jaroslav, perfect works 8)

Re: Moving people

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:14 pm
by jare
Yes it is much better to use full frame cameras in this genre. Low noise and wide dynamic range are their main advantages.

Re: Moving people

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:36 pm
by DennisS
I hate to be the one to state the obvious, but in order to freeze people you need to speed up the shutter. If you speed up the shutter you need to either increase the ISO or open up the lens. ISO 400 does not leave a whole lot of room to work with.

Blurry people in a pano is very noticeable, no matter how subtle, and not acceptable, especially for a paying gig. Sometimes you just cannot avoid blurry people. It is all up to what the customer is willing to accept.

If you are going to be doing commercial work, you need the right tools for the job.

I shoot plays in very low light situations. Before I obtained professional grade cameras I struggled to get good clean pictures. Once I got my Nikon D3s, my job got much easier. I have pictures that are totally acceptable at ISO 56,000. I use 25,600 all day long. I can shoot at 1/500 in low light situations because of the high iso performance. I can focus more on getting the shot rather than worrying about noise.

I hope you are shooting RAW.

Spend some money and get a camera body that performs in low light situations. The job of shooting a pano in low light with moving people will be much easier. Heck you could get a very good used Nikon D3 for under $1500 now. The D3s is fast approaching $2000. Even a D800 is almost affordable now. I am sure you can pick up a similar used Canon if that is your preferred camera. Pro bodies from 5 years ago still perform great and coming down in price every day.

Get the right tool for the job. It makes the job much easier.

Nikon D800, Tokina 10-17 @ 12.5mm, ISO 3200, 1/200, monopod, 4 shots around tilted up 5 degrees, hand held Nadir patch, RAW
http://www.dlsphoto.net/Orlando2014/Epcot/InsideStore

Same settings as above except ISO is 8000
http://www.dlsphoto.net/Yellowstone2012 ... eCarInside

People are not moving much because I took several shots at each position, then masked out movement.

Dennis

Re: Moving people

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:31 pm
by Rajah
Thanks Dennis for your nice panos and explanation.
I fully agree your observations.

Frans

Re: Moving people

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:24 pm
by Hopki
HI Dennis,
Just wanted to say, "Nice".
Regarding your two links :D
Hopki

Re: Moving people

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:44 pm
by DennisS
This is a 2 second exposure. If there were moving people that I wanted to eliminate, I would increase the exposure time to 30 seconds or longer. Sometimes that renders people invisible, provided they continue to move around. Since I was alone in the room, I could concentrate on proper exposure at very low ISO in order to get the sharpest image I could and not worry about noise.

http://www.dlsphoto.net/YosemiteSpringC ... orestaBarn

If interested you could see more of my work at http://www.dlsphoto.net/Panoramas.htm. Newer work is at the top, older work at the bottom. Take a look at the oldest stuff in the Yosemite gallery and you will see that I had much to learn when I first started.

Re: Moving people

Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:23 pm
by Hopki
Nice 8)
Hopki