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Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:20 pm
by TheRealMojoJojo
Hi,

I added the wrong node to a tour. I added a low quality version instead of the HD.
low-quality.jpg
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I have tried replacing the node (in the image input) with the HD version and this shows in the previewer;
hd-quality.jpg
hd-quality.jpg (466.03 KiB) Viewed 3665 times
However, once the tour is built, the same low quality tiles show up. I have tried renaming the cubes, tried deleting cache and temp browser files but for the life of me cannot get the tiles to change.

Any suggestions? Thanks!

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:59 pm
by Hopki
Hi,
Just use the properties the change the image.
To be sure you use only the new image click the “bin” button and create the output. Also clear the cache in your browser.
Regards,
Hopki

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 3:14 am
by TheRealMojoJojo
Hi Hopki,

Erasing the output folder and rebuilding the tour did the trick. Thanks for the help!

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 11:48 am
by Hopki
Hi,
For very large tours where you really don't want to be generating all the tiles for all nodes you can go to the tiles folder and just delete the folder for that one node.

This is odd as Pano2VR should detect the new image and process that one.
When you add the new image and click Create Output do you see Pano2VR remap and process that image and skip the rest or do you just see Pano2VR skip all?

I also notice in your screen shot that the image is type is cubic where the others are equirectangular.
If I was to try to reproduce this can you tell me what you did step by step.

So the image Type and File.
The Low res image Type and File
And the then replacement image Type and File.

Regards,
Hopki

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:54 pm
by TheRealMojoJojo
Hi Hopki,
This is odd as Pano2VR should detect the new image and process that one.
When you add the new image and click Create Output do you see Pano2VR remap and process that image and skip the rest or do you just see Pano2VR skip all?
After replacing the input node file and then rebuilding, there was no remapping. It just did a quick build and then that was it.....no change to the actual tiles themselves.
I also notice in your screen shot that the image is type is cubic where the others are equirectangular.
If I was to try to reproduce this can you tell me what you did step by step.
Yes, the node in question was cubic format, both high and low res versions. The low res was cubic with filename paulmitchell-grayscale_0.jpg, paulmitchell-grayscale_1.jpg, paulmitchell-grayscale_2.jpg, etc. The highres image was cubic with filename paulmitchell_0.jpg, paulmitchell_1.jpg, paulmitchell_2.jpg, etc...

It was as you said though....as if the remapping for image was skipped.

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:20 pm
by Hopki
Hello mate,
I have tried all sorts and combinations and I cannot reproduce.
The new images are detected and then remapped and tiles made.

Can you zip up and send me say two equirectanlar panoramas then the two lots of cube face's, Low and High res.
I have used both TIFF's, JPG's to see if that makes a difference but as said I cannot reproduce the issue.
Or a screen cast of you doing this!
Regards,
Hopki

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:11 pm
by TheRealMojoJojo
Hi Hopki,

Here is a screencast of what is going on https://youtu.be/Vr7BViEVFVw

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:16 pm
by Spine3d
Hi:

I have the same issue. There any patch to fix it. I am using 6.19 version.


Thank you.

Lee

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:07 pm
by Hopki
Hi Lee,
are you also on Windows?
Regards,

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:50 pm
by Hopki
Hi,
Lee wrote in to support and this was my answer.

I have tested this to destruction my end on both Mac and PC and can not reproduce the problem.
So forget about browser cache for the moment and let's look at the tiles in the tiles folder.

Please try this...
Working with Pano2VR 6 pro.
• Create a folder on your desktop and add three panoramas
• Open Pano2VR and add the three panoramas, add an HTML5 output and select a skin, use Simplex_v6
• Click the create output  (cog) button, it asks to save the project, click ok. and save, Pano2VR builds the output
• Select Node two in the tour browser making sure you looking at the default view
• Now select Patch viewer mode and add a Blurred Cover patch in the centre of the viewer, so its right in your view
• Now click the create output button again, it will ask if you want to overwrite select yes
• Pano2VR will create the output, only if the panoramas are large will you actually see any remapping as it's so fast
As you have used the Simplex_v6 skin, in the output select the thumbnail menu and select node two.
Do you see the Blurred patch, it does not matter if you do or don't as this could be the browser cache.
What we need to do is look at the actual files.
• Goto the Tiles folder in the output and select node2, then select: cf_0 => l_0 => c_0, you should see the clubface with the blurred patch applied.

How this works is by using the time stamp of the images.
If the input image is newer than the output it will create a new image/tiles.
So with no output, it will create and output.
Click again, as the output is newer than the input Pano2VR will not create new images.
Adding the patch means the input is now newer than the output so Pano2VR will create a new set of tiles.

So where this can go wrong is folder permissions preventing rewrites 
Files on a network drive preventing correct time stamp information
Files on any drive preventing correct time stamp information, the problem with the OS

We have seen this on a network drive, but this is not good anyway as this slows things down too much.
This is why I say use a folder on your desktop.

As another test, look at the time stamp of the tiles of node1, then compare them with node2. You should see node2 are newer than the other two nodes.
If you are having this issue please follow the instructions above, what are your results?

Apart from Lee, not received any other complaints so I suspect it could be a local problem.
This said I am only saying this as there is no data to say otherwise, the flood gates have opened :D
Regards,

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:11 pm
by RBirket
I'm having this issue too.

We save ALL our files on Google File Stream: wonder if that is related?

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:32 pm
by Hopki
Hi,
The way Pano2VR works is if the output images timestamp is newer than the input images then it will not remap and produce new tiles, no point.
But if there are issues with the system clock or files on different network locations this can falsely change the timestamp of a new input image so it still appears older than the outputs.

We have seen this in the past.
In this case, the best thing to do is use the Bin/Trashcan button which will delete the contents of the output folder, the next output will cause Pano2VR to generate all new files.
Test locally with Pano2VR making sure you clear the browser cache first or use a different browser.
To quickly test with a different browser, open the output as normal with Pano2VR using your default browser, then copy the URL address and paste it into a different browser, you can then test multiple browsers without having to change your default browser settings.

If you upload the new output to any file server or web server and still see the same old files, then again use a different browser.
It could also be the server caching the files.
Regards,

Re: Cannot Replace Node?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 5:42 pm
by RBirket
Thanks for the reply